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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Mr_Praetorian » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:33 pm

May it's just me, but Claws and Fangs of Violation doesn't sound like the appropriate title for a paragon of those who seek the destroy evil.

Cause if I'm playing a character who crosses paths with someone who's like:

Binder: I am [name]! Devoted of the Claws and Fangs of Violation!

I'm gonna' be like:

Me: SMITE EVIL!!!
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Sajuuk » Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:36 pm

Thats actually the name from the show. I've always wondered about that too.
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Zanaikin » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:01 pm

technically Marty, Marcosius is a battle-freak, he doesn't necessarily care if the enemy is evil as long as he THINKS they're evil.
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Sajuuk » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:43 pm

true, true. So what do you think of the vestige and PRC mod so far?
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby TheDude51 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:06 pm

Marty, you are aware that there already exists a vestige called Marchosias, the King of Killers, right?
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Sajuuk » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:17 pm

Quite aware. Think of the ones i've been making as a seperate category of vestiges. I would make a feat that gives you access to them, but that would overload the prereqs of the PRC.
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Sajuuk » Mon Oct 27, 2008 6:43 pm

I'm starting to think the STR boosts from Improved Werewolf Form might be a bit excessive.
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Laharl » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:10 pm

Marty...HOLY SHIT. +20 Strength? Does Bite of the Werebear even give that much?


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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Mr_Praetorian » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:14 pm

Whatever it is, the classes' abilities probably shouldn't surpass those of a normal werewolf.
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Zanaikin » Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:27 pm

like I suggested, if you're going to base it on anything, look @ Bear Warrior from CWar, gives a good balancing point.
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Sajuuk » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:02 am

Thats where i got the ability boosts. Those ARE the ability boosts that Bear Warrior gives.
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Zanaikin » Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:32 am

frankly then I think it be fine. The thing with ALL of these Crimson-Lord-Vestiges is that you need to make them single-vestige only (no using other vestiges if you use this one), stuff like that n that, then I think it be more or less sorta balanced. Remember there's an additional -2 AC penalty involved in the form (basic rage penalty, which bear warrior replaces the bonuses of iirc).
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Sajuuk » Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:35 am

Hmmm...possibly tone down the damage of Energy Beam (on the vestige) from 1d6/2 EBL to 1d6/3 EBL?
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Zanaikin » Tue Oct 28, 2008 4:51 am

for one, it's fire damage, all Crimson Lords uses Searing-Fire attacks I believe. Hence why Saito survives so much...

I suggest making the energy-beam a Scorching Ray style attack (multi-rays as you go up in level). This also means it's not as useful at higher levels since more and more enemies have fire-resist. But it fits her beamspam techniques perfectly...
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Re: Something I need people to look at

Postby Sajuuk » Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:18 pm

Searing Beams - As a standard action, the binder can project a beam of searing fiery energy. This beam is treated as a ranged attack and deals 4d6 searing fire damage to its target which must be within 100'+10'/2 EBLs. This ability can be used once every 5 rounds. For every four EBLs beyond 3rd, you may fire another beam, either at the first target or another target within 30'. This ability only works while Marchosias's sign is not suppressed. Searing fire penetrates natural fire resistance, deals half damage to creatures with natural fire immunity, and magical resistance/immunity apply as normal.

how's that look?
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