No, I'm not kidding. It's getting announced in a few hours at GenCon, but the WOTC guys screwed up the permissions, so people could get to the forum about it... (CO board thread with a screenshot of the forum).
How much you guys wanna bet SW Saga is gonna look a lot like 4E?
4E
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4E
Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pron surfed, weak and weary,
Over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore',
While I clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour,
"'Tis not possible!", I muttered, "Give me back my free hardcore!
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Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pron surfed, weak and weary,
Over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore',
While I clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour,
"'Tis not possible!", I muttered, "Give me back my free hardcore!
...quoth the server, 404.-Bash.org
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According to article, WOTC tested out 4E mechanics in ToB and SW Saga! Those are probably WOTC's best books in the last few years...
Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pron surfed, weak and weary,
Over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore',
While I clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour,
"'Tis not possible!", I muttered, "Give me back my free hardcore!
...quoth the server, 404.-Bash.org
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Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pron surfed, weak and weary,
Over many a strange and spurious site of ' hot xxx galore',
While I clicked my fav'rite bookmark, suddenly there came a warning, and my heart was filled with mourning, mourning for my dear amour,
"'Tis not possible!", I muttered, "Give me back my free hardcore!
...quoth the server, 404.-Bash.org
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I eagerly await the arrival of my copy of SW Saga in the next few days, and I have to agree that the mechanics look a lot simpler. They seem to have done away with saves, though I haven't done any deep reading so I could just have missed it. I'd like to see how they're going to incorporate all this new material that's been put out.
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I dunno. In the announcement at the convention, they were emphasizing the online aspects a bit too much for my liking. They never actually SAID the word "subscription", but...
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THERE ARE NO SKILL POINTS AS WE KNOW THEM IN SW: SAGA! Commence Argument.
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ugh, you fail to understand our conversation once again...
yeah they aren't real skill points, although there's really not that much difference. Trained skills give it a slight boost while untrained means not so. Just about any skill is considered crossclass since you add half your char-lvl to skills. And like I said... not that hard to convert, look @ their PrC requirements.
personally I don't like this part of the system nearly as much.
this and the fact the saves system encourage cross-classing like hell is the only real pickings I have with the SWsaga edition.
yeah they aren't real skill points, although there's really not that much difference. Trained skills give it a slight boost while untrained means not so. Just about any skill is considered crossclass since you add half your char-lvl to skills. And like I said... not that hard to convert, look @ their PrC requirements.
personally I don't like this part of the system nearly as much.
this and the fact the saves system encourage cross-classing like hell is the only real pickings I have with the SWsaga edition.
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yeah, the base saves not advancing is utter shit on a stick, but you do add your level to them which somewhat makes up for it
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adding your level means pretty much on par with 'all good saves' however its the fact wherever you take lvls in a class... you get a 'class bonus' to saves. So if you crossclass like hell you rack up a lot of those bonuses, and with the talent tree system being extremely flexible you never have to take all 10/20 levels of something to gain the ability you wanted from said class. Put this together and its like asking every char above lvl15 to have levels in 5+ diff classes.
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its looking more like its going to be like D20 modern, minus the fact that base classes only go to level 10. most d20 modern PCs have 2 to 3 different base classes, at least one advanced class, and maybe a prestige class as well.
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I hope they start including Indexes again. All these newer books without indexes are driving me insane
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